Why would you want to listen to two old guys yelling at clouds? And the worst thing,
one of them is a fucking Swiftie. Anyways, if you're still listening, here's Adam and Stephen.
Yes, welcome out to it. This is the Old Men Who Yell at Clouds podcast and we get together
to talk about the things that matter to us. We are episode number 158. As we recorded it is,
December 14th, it's approximately 11 a.m. and we are podcasting live out of Vancouver, British
Columbia. Good evening, good morning, good afternoon, whatever time it is here. Yeah,
we honour and acknowledge that we join you today from the traditional ancestral and unceded chair
territory of the Musqueam, Squamish and Tsleil-Waututh nations. You know it. That bearded guy you just
heard, you can't see his beard, it's majestic, but that's Stephen and my name is Adam. Hello there,
Stephen. Hello, hello Adam. Before we get into things that matter to us, you can support our
podcast by hitting our webpage. Oh shit, I actually don't know what our webpage is right now. Are we
still our, are we still? It's still safe to say OldMenWhoYellAtClouds.com. So let's just go with
that until I set things straight with you. Perfect. It's a work in progress, lots of shit going on.
We can talk about it a little bit here now. We'll rewind it. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Of course,
you can support our podcast by hitting our webpage OldMenWhoYellAtClouds.com and subscribing to our
podcast. And if you want to help us out, please buy us a coffee. I think we've ever got, only got
two cups of coffee bought for us in like five years. Only two cups of coffee and both by the
same friend, fan, fan, fan, fan, friends of mine. And it's been quite a while. Wow,
shit. We're really trending up. We're really trending up. You know, that's a cup of coffee
between the two of us over five and a half years, almost six years is just not cutting it. We're in
trouble. Well, I mean, I'm not doing this for the money, although another cup of coffee would be
nice. Well, they are, exactly. I mean, I've had two coffees ready this morning and
yeah, there's the two coffees that have been bought for us over the past six years.
What time are you up this morning? I'm always up pretty early. I'm up at like 5.30,
six o'clock every day, even on weekends. Yeah, I'm up early.
I woke up at 10.02 today. Oh, okay.
I got 34 minutes sleep. Oh fuck, I got to go get a coffee. Got a coffee,
started my routine and then listen to someone's nine minute song, but we'll get to that after.
I'm glad I finished off a little bit late. So I'm glad you didn't get to it right away
because there's a couple of things I added and good, we're able to talk about it.
Oh, my body is ready. So do we talk about the webpage? The website is being redesigned,
well, re-hosted. Yeah, it's re-hosted. It will look a little bit different. You know what,
it's, I do this when I have time and I have been putting a lot of time into it because,
so basically though, here's what's going on. We have moved to a different web host and it
means some big changes, at least in the backend. You will see a new website. It'll be again,
very minimal at least to start, but you'll be able to catch our podcast there. It means
resharing the feed with all of our platforms that do basically bring in or distribute the podcast,
but it also means starting from scratch though. That's the thing. So all of these different web
hosts, they start to get a little bit funny when you start uploading audio and video,
especially larger amounts. So far, we've got 157 episodes for today. That amounts to about
20 gigs of data. Now that doesn't sound like a lot and it really isn't a lot for everyday things,
but when it comes to a web host, they start to freak out when you start sharing or storing
or backing up. Sometimes they call it backing up because they think they don't want you to be
doing any of that stuff. It's not a backup. These web hosts, they don't want storage to be
used for backups, for media, for streaming your stuff. And in some ways that includes podcast
episodes. So if you want to, you're going to have to pay a shit ton of money, more money than what
we're willing to pay if you want to start hosting large amounts of data. So I've been working on
some different stuff here. I've got a solution in place. I actually had to tinker a little bit
more again this morning with it. Basically, it's been two steps forward, one step back,
but I'm making progress here. So it's coming along. Hopefully this week we'll have at least 157
and the last six episodes prior to that are now available on Apple podcasts. Of course,
I have got to add the new feeds to all of these other platforms. So again, that takes a little
bit of time too. Anyways, we're getting there and our website is now the oldmen.ca.
So you can still access us from oldmenwhoyellatclouds.com because we still own that domain.
But if you go to, and you're going there now, I can tell, but there's nothing there yet.
No, I'm just writing it down so I don't fuck this up.
But yes, theoldmen.ca.
Sick.
So you'll hopefully be able to see something there real soon, real soon.
Real soon, we're getting there.
Yeah, we're getting there. But again, some of our episodes are going to become available again
here real soon, starting with the most recent ones. As I said, Apple podcasts, you can now find those
all of our episodes, including the latest one, 157, you can find that there too. So anyway, big
changes. You may look at all of this and it may not be a big deal or a big change, but fuck,
I've been putting a shit ton of work into this.
Oh, I can only imagine.
Not that I have much time, but I've been trying. So that's where we're at.
I will personally buy you another cup of coffee.
That sounds good. One thing we're going to be able to do that I've started doing with 157,
and I don't know how it's going to work for a listener now or for somebody who wants to,
who finds our podcasts on some of these platforms that are distributing, like again,
Apple, Google, Spotify, whatever. I'm starting to add transcripts. So
transcripts help with, it's not going to make us more money, but the idea with transcripts is it
does make, what's accessibility. Accessibility is a big thing now with websites and that includes
podcasts. So if some people, some people like to have a transcript to go along with the podcast
as they're listening. So that's now available starting with 157. I don't know how that works
with 157. I don't know how that works on these different platforms yet. Anyways, it's there.
I'll figure it out. I'll play with it. I'll just make sure that's going to be available for people.
So the other thing I'm working on is chapters. Like on our website, you notice that I've broken
down different sections in time code and stuff like that. So people can skip ahead, but you're
able to, you're actually able to insert chapters within the MP3 file itself.
And that just makes skipping ahead or moving to each section a little bit easier, I think. So I'm
working on that too. So cool things like that coming up, right? It's just all part of this
podcasting 2.0 that I'm learning about. And it allows you to do these additional things just
to make the experience a little bit more fun, I guess, for the listeners.
Well, you know what's crazy is we started this as our little COVID project and stuff. And
since the time we started five, six years ago, whenever it's been, it's multiplied so much.
Again, these tools were running around and we existed. All these weird ways of hosting
went around and we started getting ready to rock. The girl, she listens to the podcast at
like 0.2 speed. So when she listens to us, she speeds it up. So our two hour show now becomes an
hour. We actually sound like young, hip humans. We're moving up in the world. But she leads this
Apple podcast and it actually automatically, once it uploads it and stuff, it doesn't happen
instantly, but within one or two days, it auto transcribed it for us. So that auto transcribed
already exists with Apple. So that's cool because they do it on their end, I think.
Yeah. And I think Spotify does it as well. So yeah, some of the platforms are able to do that
automatically somehow, but you can do it yourself as well. And then sometimes, and maybe this might
work better or more for the player that's going to be hosted for each episode on our website.
Because there, obviously it was just a player, an audio player, right? But now I'm hoping that the
transcript will be embedded into that player somehow on our website too. So anyways, yeah,
again, it's a work in progress, stuff I'm learning about all the time. And again, when I have time,
that's what it's all about here. So. Oh yeah. No, time is up. Are you finding like time is,
like this year went by so quick. I don't know if it went by quick for you, but I'm just, yeah,
that's just, it's been a, it's been a year. Yeah. It's December 5th, well, 14th today. It's,
we're halfway through December. The year is almost done. And I look back and I think about
things and like, it's like, it just flew by and I just can't believe another one is over. And yeah,
it seems to go by quicker and quicker. I know I always say that. I tell it to everybody when
we talk about this shit. It's just like, the older you get, the faster it seems to go by.
And I know it's time is time. It doesn't stand still, but it doesn't move any quicker either,
but it's, yeah, it's crazy. We're losing, we're losing this battle of time. We are? Well,
and we're all dying. That's what it is. We're all dying a slow death. Isn't that, isn't that
positive talk for our, for you and I, and for our listeners, eh?
Well, here, let's, let's segue into that. I almost fucking died. There was a,
I got major food poisoning. Oh fuck, no. Major food poisoning. So
I, I'm actually coming off of about, about 26, 27 days off. Yep. My first day back was last,
yeah. I, I had, took a couple of weeks off from my birthday. Yep. So there's this bakery,
I'm going to fuck these guys. There's this bakery called Bell Bakery right by Joy Station.
And I, it's these little Chinese dumplings that have like meat, like they're filled with meat or
meat. So you can get them with a chicken. There's a chicken deluxe one, and there's a pork one,
and there's a barbecue pork one. I got the chicken one. I ate about 95% of it. The girl ate 5% of it.
I was down for two full days. Like I was in bed. I couldn't move over. Things were coming
into my body that didn't know existed. I was just, I was beyond sick. Like I couldn't,
like I was in bed. I was scrolling. I couldn't sit up and go on my computer or watch a show.
All I could do was lay down. I could, you know, when you're so sick that you have to
convince yourself to roll over and plug your phone in, that was me. I'm like, oh my God.
I was, I've never been, well, I mean, I think I've been that sick before, but I haven't been this sick
in like 10 years, 10, 15 years. Like I was fucking done.
That doesn't sound very good. Like are you, are you sure it was food poisoning and not the flu?
Like is it, did the better half get sick too?
Yeah. So like I'm a, like I live at home still, so my parents are around. So I'm obviously
kicking around. I was isolated, but, but I ate like, so she took a one bite of the dumpling
that I had. And so she got the same thing. She was down for a day. So we pretty much isolated
to that, that place. So yeah, that was fun. And then I got sick again. Last Saturday,
I went to Moody Ales. Moody Ales is a brewery down on Brewer's Row and they're closing down.
Their last day of operation is today or tomorrow. And I got a flight of beers, like a little two,
three ounce flight of beers and lady gave me the wrong fucking beer. I'm like, oh fuck it. It's
okay. Fine. Fuck whatever. So I drank it anyways. It tasted weird. It wasn't good, but I, I downed
it anyways. So I had a flight of beer and a beer, went to the next one. I had a flight of beer and
a beer, went to the next brewery, had a beer and I had to go home because I got sick. So there was
something in that beer I didn't agree with or whatever it was. And I was down for another day.
Yeah. So fuck this. I'm food, well, I don't know if that was food poisoning or
I don't know, whatever. I was, I haven't been having a good couple of weeks, but I'm on the mend.
I feel better now. So that's really what counts. Okay. Well, that's good. That's good. It's just,
you know, these things seem to knock us back and as we get older, it's a little bit more difficult
to recover. It takes a little bit longer to recover from this shit and our body just doesn't,
doesn't need to go through stuff like that. I mean, nothing, nothing's wrong with being cleaned out
real good once in a while, but you don't want it to happen that way. I know, man.
Like there was nothing left. I mean, where's this fluid coming from? Like, holy fuck. Oh man.
See, it's, it's pretty bad when you, it's bad enough. We talk about age and shit,
but when you talk about bodily fluids and that's getting disgusting, man.
You know, it's life, you know, and that's what our listeners appreciate is us talking about life.
Yeah. All right. Let's move on to a better and brighter things.
Black Friday as a come and gone, it was Record Store Day. Did you end up grabbing anything for
Black Friday? You know, so I may have mentioned last time, you know, what was going on that day,
cause we had, we finished up a conference, you know, with work and yeah, you're at
river rock or something. Yeah. Yeah. So I came out of there early in the morning, but oh yeah,
you know what? No, I was home in time and what I did was I was able to go down to,
sorry, I'm just trying to bring up my discography here.
Like I use, like I use Discogs to track all my collection and we've talked about that before,
right? So anyways, what was I saying? Yes. So I got home early enough that I was able to get to
Beat Street down here on Hastings and just off Richards downtown here. Yeah. So, and you know
what? I showed up and there were, and I was late. Like typically I'm for, at least for the regular
Record Store Day, I'm there at least an hour before it opens. It opened again this time around at
10 AM. I was there by nine 10, I think, or nine 15. So I was still there early, but not as usually
as I usually do. There were five people ahead of me, only five. Normally it's been down the block.
Like it's been, by that time it's normally, it's normally a pretty big lineup and you risk,
if you're at the back of the line, sometimes you risk getting what you came there for, right?
Yeah. Because again, depending on the number of copies that are available at that particular
store. Yeah. Five people, but you know what? When you look at the list this year of releases,
it was actually pretty disappointing. Yeah. At least, at least for stuff that I'm interested in.
Overall, the collection of releases was not as big as it usually is. And Black Friday is always
a little bit smaller than the one in the springtime. Like it makes me wonder, like again,
all of this is really good. It's good for independent labels, record stores, all of this
stuff, right? Yeah. It's good. So I'm not trying to diminish it, but I've been saying all along now
like it's becoming a little bit too watered down. It's becoming, it's like every Tom, Dick and Harry
wants to get involved in some way and they just issue a bunch of slop. It's like it's losing its
edge. Yeah. Right? I don't know if other people feel that way or not, but it's just not the same.
It really isn't. It's not as exciting. It's not like I really anticipate, really anticipate this
event every single year now anymore like I used to, because they're, you know, you used to be able to
like, shit, I really want that, right? So I'm going to get down there nice and early. And now it's,
well, I don't know if I make it, I make it. You know, it'd be nice to get a couple of things,
but whatever. Yeah. I'm saving myself some money if I don't get this stuff, right? So
that's, that's how I feel this has become. And yeah, I don't know if I'm alone in that or not.
I'm, who knows? I might think differently than other people, but
anyways, anyways, that's, that's the way it is. Now, having said that, I did pick up a couple of
releases. One of them actually is, is pretty cool. It's a, it's a reissue. It's a vinyl reissue from
a band called Sloburn. Sloburn was John Garcia. John Garcia is from Kyuss. And of course he went
on to form some other bands after that. He's the vocalist. One of those bands is called Sloburn.
They issued an EP way back in 2000 and I forget when that came out, 2001 or,
and it's been almost 25 years anyways. Yeah. I think there was probably an initial
vinyl run at that time, but I know I've got the CD and you know, they, it's, it's, I mean,
it's hard to find. It's a very rare release, I think. So the vinyl from that time is probably
the same. Anyways, so I picked up that cause it's, so it's a 12 inch. There's only four songs. Like
I said, it's an EP, but so this is a 12 inch, all four songs on one side and on the other side is,
is an etched, yeah, it's just etched on the other side. And there's some cool stuff
these companies are doing now with, you know, with things like that, not only colours,
you know, but they, if there's, you know, they just put an etching on the other side to,
well, if it's not, in this case, it's fall four songs fit on one side. So we'll, you know,
they decided to do something with the other side that doesn't have any content. So anyway,
so I picked up that. The other one I got is from a band called Witch. Lots of bands called Witch,
of course. This Witch is from a band from Zambia, Zambia in Africa, of course,
in case people don't know where Zambia is. I don't know what part of Africa is Zambia actually.
Anyway, Zambia stands for We Intend to Cause Havoc. So kind of a cool name. But this band was around
like in the 70s. So this is a release of theirs, a re-release, I guess, of theirs. The album is
called, what is this one called? Shit, I had it. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Where is it now?
What is the album called? Okay, hang on. Hang on. It's called Fool's Ride. So actually it's a
collection of their singles from the early 70s. Sweet. So it is really cool. It's a really,
it's a cool sound. They do play a psychedelic rock, garage rock type music. But being from Africa,
it's just got this, it's different. It sounds really cool. I mean, you should check it out.
There's some other bands from Africa, from Zambia that I have listened to and it's all
really cool stuff. And anyway, so that's an album that I picked up. I just got those two things.
So there were a couple of other releases that I didn't, they didn't come in actually,
because that's the other thing with record store days. Sometimes these stores don't always get
the shipments. Yeah. And yeah, cause I think there was a Tom Petty, a live anthology series.
I think they called it Anthology Volume 1 or something. So it's different, just different
live, rare live recordings, I think from Tom Petty. I didn't get that. That one didn't come
in actually. That was one of them. So that's all I bought. That's all I bought. So I don't know
if you got to go anywhere yourself or picked up anything? No, I've made the decision to stop
collecting the physical media cause I'm saving up for the house. So I haven't really bought
anything in the last three years, four years record wise or vinyl or records, CDs, if you can still
buy CDs. I don't buy much anymore just because trying to save up for that house. And that's
maybe the other thing. Maybe the cost of living has gone up so much that people just can't afford
to go buy a record anymore. Maybe that's hurting the industry or everything in general. Yeah,
absolutely. I think that's a big part of it too. Things are not cheap anymore and
not that they were cheap, especially in a center here or city like Vancouver, but things have
gotten even worse over the past three or four years. Well, since COVID, things have gotten
pretty bad, I think. Yeah. And it's just been made worse by Trump and the economy in general,
I think. So what are you going to do? Well, if you, hey, saving up for a house is a big deal
and that's a lot of money itself too. So yes, you've got to do what you can. What are your plans
with that? When do you hope to get into that market and where are you looking? My budget is
500,000. Yeah. So whatever that gets me around the time, give or take, whatever it is. But
a lot of cool things happening in Langley, a lot of different things going around that way.
So just take a look around to see what's available. I'm probably about another two and a half years
out. Realistically, I want 300,000 saved. So probably that's four-ish years out because I
need a safety net after. Once you move in, things are going to get tight. So you just need extra
cash kicking around for whatever reason, car breaks down or emergency fund-wise or that last
minute trip to see Metallica at the Sphere, whatever it is. Yeah. So doing that. So in about
the last two-ish years, I've saved pretty close to a hundred grand. Yeah. Wow. So busted my ass.
So I hope that another, it's probably four-ish or four-ish years before I start looking. I know
you're going to be in the hot or cold market. Who cares? There's never any right time to buy
a place. It's when you are ready to rock. Yeah. I could physically go buy a place tomorrow and do
it and fill out all the paperwork and go, but then I'm going to be house poor. I won't be able
to do anything. It's just, it's going to be bad. I still want to be able to live life and go out
to restaurants and, you know, pay, pay for some shit. So I figure if you pay half, put at least
half down your place, it brings your mortgage down by half, which is reasonable for a solo person.
And if I have a partner, it's going to be even sweeter. But as of right now, just working through
it and trying to get there whenever I get there. Yeah. That's, I mean, that's a good, good plan.
And everybody has to do what's best for them, of course. I mean, the 20, you have about a 25%
down payment right now by the size of it. And that's, that is pretty good. Yeah. But it still
means you've got a $400,000 mortgage minimum. And I don't know what monthly payments look like on
something like that, but yeah, that's a shit ton of money. And I mean, obviously a limit of around
500,000 bucks probably limits where you can go too, doesn't it? Yeah. You were talking Langley
and, you know, I'm not sure. Yeah. You know, obviously the further out you get, the cheaper
things are, at least a little bit anyway, I would think. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. It's, I don't know.
Yeah. I've, I've been a homeowner. I know what it's like. Yeah. So obviously since moving to Vancouver,
I never thought for a second that I would ever be a homeowner living out here again. So I mean,
that's just, just, just the way it is and just where we are in life and, and all that stuff,
right? It's for us. And again, this is for us, it's not for everybody, but for us, you know,
the rental market works. There's just the two of us, you know, we've got no kids. We love living
downtown. I don't mind not having a vehicle. We don't mind using public transit. Yeah. You know,
so all of those things, right? So, you know, convenience to shopping, groceries, convenience
to get to work, all of that is just ideal for us right now. And I could, and again, to drive to
work, like there's, there's no way that I would want to drive to work every single day. And again,
that's, that's my preference. That's my right. I guess that's the way I want to do it. So I'm not
saying it's for everybody, but like I could not imagine driving to work. I mean, even, even last
week I was in the office or the, was it the week before it's, you know, it's, you know, talking
about people who do, who do even take transit from East Van, you know, it takes them even over an
hour to get to the office, right? Because there's no direct route. You got to take a couple of
different buses or whatever. People do drive from further in the Valley. And, and again, like it
takes an hour and a half to drive to the office. Like, like, okay, you can do it. Just don't
complain. Just don't complain to me because that's your choice. I mean, it's just like, you know,
I don't know how people do it. Cause I couldn't, there's no way, there's no way I could do it.
Hour and a half just kills you. I'm debating, you know, there's a,
might be some opportunities arising, but I might have to commute downtown every day.
Yeah. I'm like, oh man, I do not want to do that. I'm at off time. So it's not too bad,
but it's 45 minutes each way. And well, 45. So like the problem is the traffic's fucked. So
at nighttime, like I can get, it's two o'clock, minimal people on the road, two a.m. I can get to
where I need to be still driving safely, not ripping, not ripping through the speed limit,
just driving safely. I can get to where I need to be in about 30 to 40 minutes,
depending on how many lights you hit and whatever's going on and whatever it is.
That same route during like now, if I were to leave now, that now becomes like an hour,
an hour and 10 minutes. And it's because of the fucking idiot drivers. They don't know what
they're doing. Like it's, you always see little pockets and what's happening and get one little
guy just poking along that screws, literally screws everything up. Yeah. It's brutal. It's,
it's absolutely brutal. Hmm. Yeah. Do you find your stress levels low because you're taking
transit or do you still kind of get pissed off in transit when you're ripping around?
Oh, I'm sure it's a lot less than, than it would be if I was driving. That's for sure. Yeah.
But you know, there's, there's still things, you know, you still have to deal with people
and, and again, and again, this is overall, it's less than probably having to have to drive every
day. But I find that anytime, whether it's going to, going to work or going someplace else using
public transit still is a challenge in some ways, maybe challenges in the right word, but you know,
dealing with dumb inconsiderate people, um, you know, trying to get on a bus and you know, if you're
in a lineup, I guess it's sort of a makeshift lineup. I don't know who uses the lineup anymore,
but you know, the thing that pisses me off is you've got these young people who just crash
raid in or they go in through the back door or something like that. Right. And it's just like,
you know, here you are, you know, you're at the front of the bus, you're waiting with everybody
else to get in and there's some open seats, you know, they are, but then some assholes go into
the fucking back door and then all of a sudden the seats are all gone. Right. Yeah. Um, not that I
need to sit down, but Hey, I've got a bad back, a bad neck, some bad shoulders. Uh, I would like
to sit down when I can. There are other times where I don't care because I'm sitting all day
at work anyway. So, you know, why not? So, you know, I don't mind standing in the bus, but the
point, the point is number one, people have their fucking backpacks on in a packed bus and that
sucks. You know, take your fucking backpack off. Number two is, um, not that I'm a senior, but Hey,
you know, you know, these young people should be offering their seats. Hey, I, I look older.
I've got the beard anyways. That makes me look older. I think it's, it's, yeah. It's not like I
like, it's not like I need to sit down, but Hey, if somebody is going to offer me a seat, then great.
Thank you very much. I'll take it. If, you know, if I feel like it, sometimes I don't. And sometimes
believe it or not, people do offer their seats still. Yeah. But overall, these young people,
they've got their fucking headphones on, they've got their fucking phone in their face, uh, they're,
they're facing their phones and they don't give a shit about anybody else around them.
And there are these old people, these, I shouldn't call them old people, these seniors or elderly
people who, who, who, who need a seat and, you know, nobody offers them a seat. So I'm not talking
about myself necessarily here in this case, but I'm just talking in general, you know, there are
people who, they deserve to be offered a seat and these people are not doing that. And, um, yeah,
pisses me off. You know, so it's just, it's, it's frustrating things like that, right? It's, yeah,
it's still overall, the stress level is shit. I walk, I walk whatever five, seven minutes to the
bus stop in the morning, especially when it's not too busy, uh, hop on the bus. I'm at the office,
uh, 10 or 15 minutes later, right? Oh, that's money. Stress-free. It's, uh, I don't have to
deal with the traffic. Um, so yeah, so overall it's, it's, it's much better. I just, uh, I wouldn't
ask for it any other way really. Except for working from home. Except when I do have to go to the
office, I'd rather stay home. Oh yeah, it's way easier. But, uh, yeah, I still, I still love
working from home. I really do. I know there's times when I need to be in office, but yeah,
working from home is great. I hope that doesn't change. And then, uh, you know, you, these people
who are commuting, like, I mean, we've had the torrential downpour for the last three years.
Abbotsford is underwater. Chilliwack's fucked. Like it's, have you been keeping up on what's going
on out that way or? Well, yeah, I've been kind of watching the news and stuff like that. Yeah.
Or at least looking at, uh, you know, the stories on the, on the internet. Uh, yeah, pretty bad.
It's just. It's fucked again. It's, uh, yeah, this weather is pretty screwy. And, uh, you know,
again, it's all because of climate change and, um, yeah, it really impacts the people out there.
That's for sure. I mean, downtown was wet. No question. It was wet down here, but it's not
like it was out there. That's, that's for sure. You know, I don't know of any flooding that
necessarily that happened here downtown. You know, the drains seem to handle everything
for the most part anyway. Um, yeah, that's pretty shitty out there. Definitely. You know,
the highways, are the highways still closed? There's like, I mean, there's, I'm getting
breaking news updates. Yeah. Um, so like the last one I just got was highway one reopened
through Abbotsford after flooding. Okay. So it says one eastbound lane, both westbound and
eastbound on highway stretch have been open between highway 11 and number three, uh,
road through Abbotsford are now open. So that's like three days, whatever it is. But I mean,
it's still, yeah, it's, yeah, man, it's, it's rough. Yeah. Yeah. It's, um,
yeah, it's not good. I don't know. Part of it is that river, that same river that comes
up from Washington state, right? Yeah. Um, so let's blame Trump.
And they got hammered down there too. Like some of the places in Bellingham are flooded out and,
yeah, and whatever it is. So it's just not us. And you're right. The people who say global warming
isn't a thing. Like it's December this time, you know, 15 years ago was fucking minus 18. Now we're
like plus nine. Like it's nine degrees right now. It's going to flip. When did it flip last year?
Like late January or early February. I can't remember. It just, it flips and it's now, hey,
it's minus 25. Oh fuck, here we go. Um, like you see the North Shore mountains every day. I see the
North Shore mountains every day. There's no snow up there. They're, they're, yeah, they're hurting.
So yeah, it's, uh, we are getting, we're getting hammered in more ways than one.
Yeah. Well, I was talking to my mom already just before, uh, we just started here and, um,
you know, in Alberta and it's, yeah, it's middle December and they got some snow last week. Uh,
and it, and it's been cold at times out there. Like they've had the minus 20, I think minus,
maybe even minus 30 weather already in parts of Alberta, maybe not where my mom is, but up
at Edmonton, I think it got pretty cold. And, uh, anyways, it's been pouring there. It's been
raining. So it's, it's warmed up. It's, you know, middle of December it's raining. Uh,
it's raining lots. It's raining heavy and, um, like that's, that's fucked up. Yeah. It's, uh,
it's really, yeah, it's crazy weather. So, um, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's gonna hit
and then it's just gonna get cold and that's gonna scare me. Wow. That's, that's the big thing,
right? It's gonna get shitty outside. It's gonna get slippery and people aren't gonna be able to
handle it and people are gonna fall. And, uh, that's the last thing I want to happen to my mom,
of course. And, you know, not that she has to go out any time any much anymore, but, um, you know,
when she does, she's gotta be damn careful. That's for sure. Sucks. And then I don't know if you
read this, but the Cheetos fucking the social media, he's implementing a new bullshit order.
Says tourists would have to reveal their last five years of social media activity under new
Trump plan. Did you take a look at this? The best part about this whole thing are the comments.
Me and you are personally fucked. If they catch a podcast episode, I'm fucked. Like we're fucked.
But yeah, I remember you deleted all your socials. Um, whatever you've been about social
free for 10 years now, seven years, five years. For the most part, for probably,
well, remember I think I did when we started the podcast, I think I started a Twitter account
again, didn't I? I can't remember. I think I did temporarily, but, but yeah, I, I deleted that
again in a, in a hurry. That's for sure. So, um, but you know, still, you know, all, all of this
is part of like there, there it's, it's, there's, this is a big picture. Like this particular,
um, disclosure, I guess, or whatever it is that they, Trump wants to call it or they want to call
it downstairs or down, downstairs, down there. Um, this is, uh, I think they apply to a limited
number of countries and I don't think Canada is one of them. And it's, and it's, um,
I think it's to people who are, are trying to enter without a visa.
So there are some, yeah, some guidelines or something around it. So, and I don't think
Canada is on that list, but the fact that it's happening is, will, will still affect a lot of
people. Um, uh, yeah. And I think, I think it's, as you know, I think this, this is, it's bullshit
and it's, um, it's, I don't know. And it's all about Trump and his ego. Like, like I don't, like
the thing is a lot of countries are kind of heading in this direction anyways, about, um,
you know, nothing, especially on your phones being private, like that they should,
um, like there's no privacy in their minds. There's, there's, there's no privacy and we
have a right to search anything we want. Yeah. Because, you know, some different things that
have happened even recently, like, like Australia was the first one and this just happened last
week, I think they have made, um, social media. Well, they've banned it for people under 16 years
old. Yeah, I saw that. I mean, yeah. So there's that there are places, there's countries in Europe
and I think the United States could be involved in this too, in that they think that they should,
there should be a back door so that they can monitor all of these, um, all messages that
people are coming through. So not just your regular SMS stuff, but all of these apps like
Signal, which are encrypted and meant for private communication, they are saying that all of these
apps should have a back door so that they can get in there as well. And, uh, and, and basically if
you don't make that happen, well, then your app is made illegal. And, uh, so there's a bunch of
stuff like this happening all throughout the world. But again, I guess my, my question was
what I was going to get to if Trump wasn't president, would stuff like this be happening
in the United States? Uh, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. See, because a lot of it is
him not wanting people, regardless of who you are or where you are, he does not like people talking
bad of him or talking down about him, right? And it's, so that's the thing. It's all the fucking
upstairs. It's all an ego thing with him and he wants control over that because he's a fucking
narcissist. He wants control over everything, everywhere. And you know, just, yeah, I mean,
we could go on about some other stuff that's been going on recently with him, uh, from Venezuela and
like, he's just, he, he's, he, he wants a Nobel peace prize so badly, right? But you know, but
here he is, here he is doing, trying to do this peace plan between Ukraine and Russia. And he's
basically up Putin's ass because, because he's, he, he is basically telling Ukraine that, hey,
just give Russia what they want and let's fucking end the war now. Well, that would mean Ukraine
giving up at least 20% of the country that they held before all of this bullshit started,
right? Like, like fuck off. You know, Venezuela, like what the hell is going on down there? He's
bombing these boats. He doesn't, he, at least he has not provided any proof that they are running
drugs or anything like that. He's just blowing these fucking people out of the water. Now he's
going in and seizing oil tankers coming from Venezuela. Like, it's just like, fuck off,
asshole. Yeah. Stick to your own fucking country and clean that place up before getting involved
in anybody else. How many more years does he have left? Two? Oh, fuck. No, he's still got
three years left. This is only year one, man. Only year one. Yeah. See, we talked about time
going by so fast. This is going by so slow. Word. Cause while it might be year two that he's,
is he in year two now? Oh, fuck. I don't know. I lost track. Let's Google it. He,
because midterms are next year, right? Which is two years after,
after the regular elections for president. So midterms are next year. So that means the next
presidential election is 2028. Is that right? Yeah. So I think so.
Donald Trump's, the timeline of the second president of Donald Trump during the first
quarter of 2025. He was president January 20th, 2025. Yeah. That's when he got sworn in. So
basically, basically we've got another three years of this bullshit. Oh, good. And
you know, so, so here's the other thing. Since we're talking about all of this,
just last week, another fucking thing happened where, where a man was arrested because they
alleged that he was wiped his phone before a search with the, the CBP, the whatever,
what is that called? The, the Customs and Border Protection Agency. Basically the border guards,
the US border cops. So yeah, this happened on, oh, that's when he was indicted. He was indicted by
a grand jury on November 13th and an arrest warrant was issued the same day. Anyways,
it says that on January 14th, he knowingly destroyed contents of, of the pixel phone
for the purpose of preventing or impairing government authorities from taking the property
into their custody. See, so, so I think like, if you read the whole thing, I don't,
I don't believe in there. It says that they were targeting, like if you were, if, if,
if they suspected you of committing a crime and you knew that they were coming and then you,
even then, is that, I don't know, even then and then you deleted your phone,
could that be considered, what's it called? Could that be considered obstruction? I don't know.
But see, but, but I heard that he wasn't even charged with a crime. Like other, like other
than this, he was not, like, I don't think he did anything wrong, right? So all he did was
clear his phone and they of course knew that right away. And I don't, I mean, from what I can tell
from the stories I've read, they, they were not targeting him. They did not suspect that he was
doing anything wrong or had any content on his phone that would incriminate him. And, and they,
they're doing this, right? It's like, it's like, fuck. It's like,
you know, that's, that's just invasion, privacy invasion for sure. And it's just,
I don't know. I don't know. Like it's, it sucks because we live and die by these fucking things.
Like you're on it so much. It's a life. Oh, where's my phone? Like people lose your
fucking mind over these things. And like, I don't know, like, I don't know if you're Android,
I'm Apple. If I enter in my password wrong five times, I'd automatically wipes. Yeah.
And, um, yes. And the androids have that capability as well. Yeah. So that I have that
set up. I'm ready to go. Uh, just, and I like, like it's, I mean, I can't lock it down quite
as much as your Android. I can't, but like, I have like the charging ports. You can't charge
this phone unless I unlock it and plug it in. Like there's different things they can do. Cause
they, there's like tools and software out there to force break your phone open. And as far as
I can, I've locked it down as much as you can do, uh, and be ready to rock that way. So even if
the phone gets seized at the border, okay, yeah, fuck, good luck. You get five chances and it's
fucked. Like, and that's, it's as well. So am I obstructing justice or am I just keeping my shit
safe? Cause yeah, and that's, and that's what it is because, you know, because it's my phone,
I can give you my phone. Here you go, Steven, enjoy, but I have to unlock it before you can
see what's going on. Like, I know you're not going to go fucking look at my bank apps or whatever,
go on my socials. I don't go fuck, but like even that stuff is locked down with password and two
step authentication. That's ripping down to me and face ID and all that shit as much as I can get it
down. So like, that's me getting, but even if I gave it to the fucking guy, I have nothing to
hide. He still can't access the shit because everything is all face ID and all that stuff.
Yeah, but, but that's, but that's the thing. They would still make you unlock it.
Yeah.
Even if it's face ID or your fingerprints or whatever it is. See, that's the thing.
Biometrics are, are secure, but they are, I think under the laws, they are not covered so that,
so that if you, if they want you to unlock your phone using your fingerprint or your,
your face ID or whatever of your face scan, you have to do it. If it's a, if it's a password,
I don't, obviously they're not going to like, but, but under the law or whatever the guidelines are
and they're very, I don't know, I guess they're open to interpretation, I suppose, but basically
what they're, what the experts are saying is that if you are going to be crossing the border or
entering the United States to delete your fingerprints, delete your, your, your facial,
facial recognition so that you are not logging in with those in that manner and that it's better
to use a password. Yeah. But even so, they're saying at the borders, anything goes and they
will still force you to unlock your phone, regardless of the method that you use to unlock
it. Yeah. And, and, and once they are in, they can do whatever the fuck they want,
including checking your bank accounts and because yes, they are still, they may be protected with
a password manager or something like that, but again, they're going to ask you to unlock it all.
They're going to ask you to unlock your social media accounts. They can ask to unlock your
signal accounts so that they can read your messages, even though it's a, I mean,
it, it is a very private and secure application, but hey, if they are on your phone and have the
app in front of them, obviously they can read whatever they want. At the border, anything goes
and that's the problem. That's the problem I have and that's why I'm not going fucking down there.
Yeah. And even once Trump is out, all of this shit is probably still going to remain in place.
And it's, and again, it's just going to keep getting worse because that's the way some of these
governments, that's the direction they're going. And I mean, in some ways Canada is following
behind and it's, it's not any better in some ways. Yeah. Right. So I mean,
I mean, my, my days of going to the United States are over. Probably. Yeah. Probably. Right. Like,
like it's, it's certainly while Trump is like, we've already said, I've already said,
I'm not going down there while he's president. Yeah. And I'm not, and again, it's not only
because of this stuff, it's everything going on with him. Yeah. He's a fucking knob and,
you know, but, but this stuff isn't going away. And yeah, I don't know. I mean, my,
I could say, okay, well, I'm going to Europe instead. And, and, and yes, I would prefer to
do that. But again, the way some of these countries are going to, it's like, who knows,
who knows what's going to happen? And, um, you know, if you don't unlock your phone for them,
obviously only two things can happen. Well, three things. Number one, they're going to detain your
phone. Yep. And you'll probably never get it back. Number two is they could detain you. Yeah. Fuck.
And who knows what the fuck's going to happen then. Yep. And, or of course, number three,
which is probably the best one is, which is no fun after spending all that money to travel,
but they could just ask you to turn around, go home. Imagine that, hey, fuck, now you're done.
But that's, that's, that, that's not, that's not stupid talk. That's very realistic.
Yeah. That's the reality of the situation. Yeah. You got three options. Either fucking give us the
information, give us the phone with your password, or we get you until you break or you just turn
around and leave. I mean, they could send you home without your phone. So then you're,
I mean, that's no good either. Right. So I, you know, still, you know, people say, okay,
well, the number of people that this is actually happening to, happening to is still very small,
but the fact that it is happening and it is happening more is pretty scary. And
will it happen to me? I mean, I mean, I feel I'm taking a chance. Like, like I really do.
Well, we're all taking a chance. We all are. Yes. Yeah.
And I don't know what I would do if I was in a position where I tried to go down there
for a vacation and, and it, and like, what would I do? Yeah, it's tough.
And that, and, and that's, and I guess that's the biggest problem I have is because I don't
know what I would do because I'd be very reluctant to hand over my device and unlock it for them.
What would happen to me? And that all of that is just like, forget it. I'm not even going to risk
it. I'm not going to do it. You know, at the end of the day, we have nothing to hide, but it's the,
it's the invasion of privacy. Yes. And that's, and that's what it is. It's the,
for them flexing your weight for no reason at all. Yes. Just because they can.
Yeah. And like nothing, not hiding anything, but why do you want to check what I listen to in Apple
music? Why do you want to check like that? I reposted a video about a dog licking a
Santa Claus. Like what, what's about. Well, and, and yeah, it's all that, but it's this too. It's
like, so what that I call Trump a fucking asshole. Like, so what? Like really he's a big boy. Yeah.
Deal. He shouldn't give it. He should care that some fucking Canadian who, you know, who, who is
a law abiding a Canadian at that. Why should he fucking care what I think of him? Exactly.
Like, why does it so fucking matter, you know, to him? Really? Yeah. That's, that's what this is
about. Why? Why does he have to be this way? Like, like, so what? And that's, and that's why, you
know, sure. They want to check social media because of, uh, who knows what the, you know,
terrorists, you know, I think terrorists for the most part now know not to use regular social media
to, uh, you know, to talk about shit. Whatever they might do. Whatever. Yes. You know, but if
somebody wants to get into a discussion with somebody else about Donald Trump in the United
States and they call him a fucking dick, why should it matter to him? So what if Joe Blow
is talking about me like that? I'm going down there on a vacation, man. I've done nothing else
wrong. I'm a, I'm, there's nothing, there's no crimes against me. I haven't been in jail. Um,
why should, so why should you fucking care? Why should you be spending all this time and
money and resources, uh, on somebody like me? So it's, it just doesn't make it. And have you
tried scrolling down fucking five years? It doesn't work. Have you tried scrolling down
six months? You're scrolling for fucking three hours. Like it does not, it gets not easy to
scroll all that shit all the way down. Like it's, it's a, it's going to take you some work. Like,
oh man, it's just. Well, I mean, they can, they'll, they, they not only search your phone,
they probably dump it. Uh, and then maybe they've got the tools on their side that will,
you know, like AI now, right? Like I'm sure they can use AI to scan things and different
applications to, you know, to maybe search for a certain information, uh, that'll make it quicker.
But, but again, yeah, the fact that they're, that they're doing it, uh, yeah, it's just, uh,
it's, it's ridiculous. It really is. We're getting hosed. Yep. All right. Let's get you going. Uh,
major, major. Oh, I'm going already. Don't worry about it. Yeah, I'm going. Uh, there's major, uh,
major sporting news. Uh, the Canucks have traded their captain Quinn Hughes for three people over
the three Minnesota wild players and a first round draft pick. Yes. The internet lost her
fucking mind, which is the greatest thing to see. But, uh, oh my God, why sell the team? Like,
fuck it's a rebuild year, fucking all this shit. So, I mean, I mean, I'm a Canucks fan, but this
like, I mean, what do you do? You're getting three players for one. Defeat Hughes was a great
defensive player, obviously capping the team. Who's going to wear the C next? Who knows? Um, but
just there's nothing you can do. Like it's the, it's sporting, like you can be as pissed off as
you want. Was it better for the team? Arguably people sad about it. Yes. I mean, whatever,
even though if you score any goals this year, I don't even know what the stats are. Who cares?
Canucks are shit in the bed. I think they're the last place. Like they are. It's like team in the
league right now. Yep. Woo. We're a number last. Like who, who cares? Just let them do what they
got to do and move on for life. Like fuck. Um, what do you think about this? Well, number one, uh,
oh no, my wife just bought me a Queen, Quinn Hughes jersey and now he's traded. Uh, that's the
big story or the big, uh, the big thing I've been hearing people complain about too, right? They
just got a jersey or he's got a jersey and now he's gone. Right. So the one of the last games
I went to, I was drunk and I bought a Quinn Hughes jersey. That was two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
that was two years ago. That wasn't yesterday. So that wasn't yesterday. It was the black, uh,
the black skate jersey. Okay. Um, I wanted the Linden one, but they didn't have any,
okay, I'll take this one. So I got this one. And so, yeah, so I got a Hughes jersey kicking
around the closet now, but I also have a Luongo jersey, I have a Linden jersey and a Sadine jersey
kick around. Okay. So see, you're safe with those players that have retired now, right? Yeah. Yeah.
When you, when you have some young and, and you know what, I might sound hard on him,
but I guess it's just a business decision. It's a personal decision, right? That he,
because it sounds like he did not want to stay in Vancouver, not only because the team was not
playing well, but like he's, he's an American, you know what? So I say, fuck off, get rid of him.
That's, that's what I say. He's a young fucking punk American kid. And if he wants to play in
the States, then fuck off, let him go, you know, get something decent in return, which they did.
They got some, uh, three young kids in a draft pick, a number one draft pick coming up next year,
I think. And, uh, you know, they're at the bottom of this, they're in the cellar, you know, it's,
the rebuild is on now for sure. I think they've been trying to avoid the, this, you know, the
term rebuild or the rebuilding phase. I think they've been trying to use, oh,
they're rebuilding on the fly. Yeah. Uh, well, it's going to be a full rebuild now for sure.
And, um, yeah. So I don't like, I don't know, like I'm not, I'm not going to dump on the team.
You know, it's just, um, I don't know, they have had it pretty tough though, the last couple of
years. Absolutely. So, you know, first you have JT Miller, who was a young fucking, well, he's not
young. He's, uh, he's in his early thirties now, I think, but JT Miller is a fucking crybaby. He
wanted out, so they traded him. Um, you know, now, you know, he's an American, JT Miller is American.
So now Quinn Hughes is American. He wants to go, um, I mean, you see, so that's, that's the thing
now, you know, more than ever, you have these players and typically they're American. You have
these players who don't want to play in Canada and, um, and they, they are even more,
uh, getting more specific than that. Not only do they want to play, not want to play in Canada,
but they want to play, let's say on the East coast or in Quinn Hughes' case, he wants to play with
his two brothers. It's like, well, okay. I don't know. Sure. Maybe some team can swing that somehow,
but you know, they all have their own contracts, um, with, uh, well, his two brothers do play on
the same team right now. So, uh, he didn't get traded to that team and he's under contract
for another year and a half with Minnesota now. Yep. So yes, after that, maybe something can
happen where all three of them can get together, but you don't see, but that's the thing. Like,
you know, yes, you do have a contract. Yes. He's a good player now that maybe he's kind of earned
a, I wouldn't say earn his right, but he, he does have maybe some pull now as to,
you know, what happens with his future. Well, he's running his stripes. You're just,
you're just, yeah. Well, yes. And, and, but, but I guess, I guess the thing is now players are now,
I wouldn't say too powerful. Like they, they have too much say in what goes on, I think,
especially somebody, he's still young. You know, he's, he did win the Norris trophy a couple years
ago. That's the best defenseman in the league. He, he's, he is a good player. He's going to help any
team that he's on. Yeah. But has he won anything yet? Has he really won anything yet? No, he has
not. And you have these players who, I just, yeah, I don't know, just. He's 26. Is it the arrogance?
Is it, what is it that makes you think that, you know, it's a team game. What makes you think that
you're better than anybody else? Really? That's what it comes down to because you could be the
best player in the world and still end up on a shitty team and lose. Right. It's so, and,
and when, when that happens, you're just another fucking player. Really in the scheme of things,
it's all about winning the Stanley cup. And if you don't do it, well, you know, sure,
there's personal accolades that go along with it, but it's all about winning. And in order to win,
you have to play as a team. And I don't know. I just, I just, you know, it, it's, it happens
more often than not with these American players who, who think they deserve to play in America
with an American team. You're making $9.5 million to fucking. No kidding. Everything's catered for
you. You're told what to eat. You're in the best shape of your life. You're fucking playing
competitive sports. You're fucking worshiped by people. You're a fucking role model. Oh,
I don't want to play in Vancouver. Like all the headlines is he was told Canucks last month. He
wouldn't resign this summer. Like go fuck yourself. You know, I hope one of your brothers knocks you
out next time you're fucking on the ice. You fucking bitch. Like, shut up. Like, like who cares? Just
relax and play the game. It's a privilege for you to be there. You're in the sea. Like you took on
the role. Thank you very much for your fucking service. Get, if you don't want to be here,
get the fuck out. Like, I hope these other guys just take the shit out of you when you're fucking
playing next. But it's just brutal. Like sports is fucked. Like I, it's, it's cool to watch,
but the politics behind, I mean, sports and everything, it's just, it's just ridiculous.
Just play the game. Let's go have some, have some fun and win some fucking games.
At the end of the day for, for us fans, at least it's, it's entertainment, right? Yeah. Yes. Yes.
It is a job for them, but like you said, like it's a well-paying job. Uh, they are doing something
they love. Like, like fuck, suck it up, man. Like it's just, you should be, like you said,
you should be proud to be in a league that is so difficult to, for the most people to, to,
you know, to get a shot at doing. Yeah. It's, it's, you know, most people,
no matter how good you are, some people just don't make it. And, um, you know, if you do just
fucking, you should, you should be proud and you should be thankful and, uh, just fucking have fun
and enjoy it and do the best you can instead of. Enjoy the ride. Yeah. Don't get injured. Yeah.
Exactly. And fucking have some fun. Yeah. Yeah. So he could fuck off. I don't care. And that's for
any fucking sporting event, not just hockey, football players, baseball. Absolutely. Yes.
I agree. No, I agree. It's, uh, it's the same regardless of where you play or what sport you're
in. Oh man. All right. So anyway. Well, let's talk about some happy news. Guns N' Roses released
new music. You listened to these songs? I did. I, I, you know, you know, yes. See, see the thing is
these two songs came from the Chinese democracy era, didn't they?
You know, honestly, that's what I read. That's what I read, which came out. When did that album
come out? Um, like it seems like forever ago. Um, but yes, they re-recorded it with parts with,
um, with Duff and with, um, slash with slash. Um, but they're old songs. Um, I don't know. And,
and this one you're playing, it's nothing great. So this is the better of two. This one's called
nothing. Uh, so Chinese democracy came out November 23rd, 2008. Uh, but yeah, this song,
like, this is cool. This is good solo slash is ripping. It's, it's, it's the better of the songs
they've released in recent history. So I don't mind this song at all. I think it's all right.
The next one, this song, Alice, this song is a fucking piece of shit. Yeah. Um, and you're
expecting more. Your guns and roads, your slash, your fucking Duff, your Axl, you know,
at least the Axl sounds getting the shit. Well, well, he, he does, but again is, are his vocals
from 2008 or whatever, right? Yeah, that's true. It's, uh, because he sounds like shit now. So,
yeah, I don't know. Are you going to the concert, uh, coming up? They're playing, uh, BC place. When
are they playing? Um, August 29th. See the only good cool thing about the show is that they're
playing with the black crows. Yeah. See that's cool. But anyway, like, I don't know, like I,
I haven't looked at tickets because they're probably not cheap. And I don't,
if I go away, it would be to see the black crows and I just don't think I want to spend the money.
So, I mean, I saw the, the first reunion gig that they did, um, went down with Sean Byrne,
it was 2015, whatever the hell it was. And we went down to Seattle and saw that gig. Yeah.
And that was fucking awesome. Um, so I mean, I appreciate that, but they, the cool thing about
this show is they got a lot of weird bands playing opening for them. So they got the black crows who
were opening the Vancouver gig. They got ice cube opening. They got public enemy opening. They got
pierced the veil opening and they got the barbarians of California also opening. So those are great
opening acts for, depending on where you're catching them throughout, uh, throughout the thing.
But am I going predict? Probably not because it is a work day for me. And, uh, they've really
flexing on their time off and what we're getting off for, uh, um, and how we book time off and
stuff coming up. So, okay. Yeah. It's, uh, it's, uh, it's a Saturday. It's, it's tough,
but ACDC also got announced. Yeah. But not, not in Vancouver. Did they, is there, oh, really a
Vancouver date now? Thursday, August 13th at BC place again. Oh, okay. But again, it's the same
show that was here last year. It was a pretty reckless opening. So is it the exact same show?
Is it going to be the exact same thing? I missed that show last time. So maybe I'll check it out
this time. I mean, you're still watching ACDC videos and it's funny that ACDC and, um,
GNR playing cause, uh, Axel had that short stint with ACDC when it was on lead vocals. Yeah.
Uh, but I would rather see the ACDC gig over the, uh, GNR gig. Oh, so, so would I, for sure. Not
that I'm going to go. See, I thought, I know that ACDC, there's a Montreal date. I think Quebec
city dates. And that was obviously just the first announcements because I mean, there was no Vancouver
dates at that time. So I figured, well, not that I was seriously just a guy I work with. He lives
in Montreal and he's got his tickets right away. He's a big fan. Um, he, uh, yeah, he said, yeah,
you should come down to Montreal, go to the show and stuff like that. So I didn't really entertain
it seriously, but I mean, yeah, it would be cool to go to Montreal, just, you know, to go there
again. Cause I was there probably 25 years ago or something. Yeah. Um, but, but yeah, so I didn't
know that they were going to continue adding dates and stuff and that there was a Vancouver date
now. So I guess that's cool. I don't know if I still don't know that I go, but I don't know.
Yeah. August 13th, uh, BC place and the Montreal date is a September 12th. Yeah. Okay. So that's
just as cool. Okay. Uh, they got, uh, they get an Edmonton and a Vancouver date. So yeah. Okay.
That's cool. So yeah, that might be, uh, that might be in the cards, I think. Yeah. Uh,
it's a day off for me. So I don't have to worry about that shit. And, uh,
are tickets on sale yet? Oh yeah. Yep. Oh, they are. Yeah. They went on, uh, last couple,
I don't know, two weeks ago, I think. Oh wow. Like where the fuck was I? I thought I checked
even back then there was no Vancouver date. That's why I thought they just maybe announced it then.
You're probably just busy. You're probably just busy. Okay. Maybe while I have been for sure.
Oh, a hundred percent. Um, I can pull it up here super quick. Do you have anything else lined up
for the year? I know you got the Rush show. Did you buy Keithmas... is now sold out?
Yeah, I know Keithmas. Uh, yeah. Well, I told you, I got Rush tickets, but that show is not until
December 15th. That's a year away, a year away tomorrow, December 15th. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy.
I've been there. That's it. That's it. No other, uh, no other tickets at this time. So, um,
Hey, we were talking about shows last time though. And I mentioned, we went to The Who
and I mentioned, did I mention, I did mention The Who didn't I? I'm sure I did.
But the other one in there was, uh, Neil Young. We did end up seeing Neil Young at, um,
at Deer Lake. Yes. Yeah. Was it fucking everything you thought it would be? And I didn't
think I talked about it or mentioned it. Um, it was pretty good. It was, it was really good.
Like it would have been nice to see him with Crazy Horse. Like that was the tour that was planned
last year. They got canceled because somebody was sick somewhere along the way. Yeah. Um, uh,
let's see. So, uh, so yeah, so this was a different band and they're all great musicians,
but they played, he played Neil Young music across the board, like all from, from the early days with,
with, um, with Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, you know, his solo stuff, some stuff with Crazy
Horse. Did they even have a Buffalo Springfield song in there? Oh shit. I don't know. Anyways,
like he, it was, he played music from across all of the different decades. And, uh, uh, so yeah,
so it was pretty cool. Uh, and it was a good show. I mean, I, I don't know, Deer Lake Park is the,
the only thing is about the show is that they do not have big screen set up. And I'm, and I'm
wondering, is that normal for, for that place? Cause because I mean, it's hard to, it's hard
to see when you're at the back. Yeah. I remember seeing, um, oh God, is that me? That's me. I don't
know. Mute, mute everything. Um, like I've only seen a handful. I saw the cure in there. We did a
couple of Foxfests in there. I saw Jack White, which is the fucking worst show I've ever seen.
Um, and something else, but yeah, I actually don't like the venue. It's hard to get in and
out of the place. It's, it's very difficult. So I mean, the Neil Young show would have been
fucking awesome, but yeah. Uh, it sounds like it was a good set. It was, it was pretty good,
but, but yes, my only complaint was that they, I mean, they have, I mean, they don't have shows
there all the time. I know that, but how hard is it to, you've got your stage set up already,
you know, have at least the, the place wired for, you know, a couple of screens on each side,
uh, or one on each side, right? So that people can see, cause that's, that was my own complaint.
It sounded great, but if you're not right up front, you can't see shit.
And that's the only kind of amphitheater kind of venue that we got, but there are building
that new one by the PNE. Have you seen that shit ripping around? No, I haven't seen it recently
at all. No, that's a big deal too. That's a big deal. How many people is that going to hold?
Like 10,000, I think. So that's going to bring, hopefully that's going to bring a lot more shows
up this way because these bands can't fill quite fill a Rogers Arena or whatever it is,
but they can definitely fill that place. It's like a bigger, you know, like the Orpheum and
Queen E are almost too small for it, but you kind of move into this place. It kind of upgrades you.
So it's kind of like, you know, you're just adding the extra venue and they're putting a
lot of time in the engineering and stuff and behind like what they're doing to it,
because they had the preliminary like structure and blueprints built, but the engineers came,
Hey, no, we can change it like this, but it's going to cost you X amount of dollars. So they're
actually doing it right. Like it looks cool. It's as awesome like wood sculpture, acoustically tuned,
like it looks fucking cool. So hopefully they get a good opening band to open that night up
and it's a good night and doesn't fuck too much shit up. But it looks, it looks, I hope it,
it obviously replaced the Forum and the Forum honestly, isn't that bad of a space to see a
lot of music anymore. Like I saw, what did I see when they recently, I saw Trivium in there
with Bullet For My Valentine. It was a couple of months ago and I saw a Spiritbox in there
a couple of months ago and it sounded, the room sounds good, like no complaints from where I was.
Yeah. And I bought something else for there. What's coming up? Oh, Lamb of God are
playing in Vancouver, April the first. So I bought tickets for that.
Okay. Maybe you should join us for that one. It's a Hobson. Hobson will be joining me for that one.
When is, when is that again? It's a Wednesday, April the first. Yeah. Okay. Put it on your
calendar, put it on your calendar. I'll put it on the calendar. I'll let you know. Yeah. But this
amphitheater down at the PNE, so it is an indoor, indoor venue then, is that what it is? No,
it's outdoors. It's all outdoors. It is outdoors. Yeah. Okay. So that's what I thought. It was,
it was going to be all outdoors, but the way you were talking, I wasn't sure if they were.
It's kind of like, remember last time where the PNE was, but it's kind of like behind the corkscrew
or whatever the hell it's now called. Okay. So it's all behind there. If you, you know, if you got,
if it's, I was going to say, Hey, it's a nice sunny day, but we're not going to get a sunny day
till like March. So, um, next time we're out and about, just, uh, go down. It's cool area out that
way. This is cool. The PNE park has actually a pretty good walk. So yeah. Uh, walk down there.
Hopefully you can see, so it's all boarded up, but you can see the big, awesome wood roof that
they're building. So when's it supposed to be done? Uh, they're projecting next summer. Okay.
So cool. We'll see. We'll see. All right. All right. Do you have any other shows lined up?
No, nothing, nothing lined up at all. Absolutely nothing. And, um, oh, we did see Rich Hope. Uh,
that's, that's a show we saw a couple of weeks ago too. Rich, Rich Hope released a live album.
Uh, if you don't know, Rich Hope is a local guy. Uh, pretty cool. Play some good tunes. Awesome on
guitar. I've known Rich for a good 20 plus years in some of the bands that he's and music that
he's played. Um, so yeah, he just, he recorded a live album earlier this year, I think at the Anza
Club. Sweet. So, uh, he's, uh, this was an album release party at a venue called down in the East
side. It's just a small place. It was an old auto shop. In fact, it's called Green Auto,
Green Auto. Yeah. Yeah. So that seems like a cool little place. Uh, I, you know what I miss
little places like that. I really do. I, you know, cause you had venues like the Starfish Club or
the Starfish Room, uh, the Piccadilly Pub, like all of these smaller places. This place is even
smaller. Really. It's, it's like, uh, it is like, uh, having a show out in your back garage. Uh,
yeah. Like it's not very big at all. Um, yeah. So we did see that, uh, picked up the album of course.
So, but that was, it was a pretty good show. He put on it. He always, we always have a good time
with him. Of course he is playing Keithmas coming up, but actually Keithmas might've been
last night. I'm not sure. Uh, Oh, fuck. I think so. Not again. I wasn't planning on going anyway,
but yeah, Keithmas was last night. Um, yeah. So, uh, so that was pretty cool. I think the only
disappointing thing about his, his album, which I mean, it sounds great. He recorded the album, um,
the whole show. There's only nine songs on it. I guess, I guess, I guess I'm, and maybe there's
plans, but I guess I'm thinking, well, shit, do you, why not record a double album or release
a double album? Because you probably have all this material, you know, cause they were trying,
they were struggling with what to put on the album. Right. So, yeah. Uh, so there's only
nine songs. It's like, yeah, I'm sure you got enough stuff for a double album. Why not just do it?
But whatever. That's me being greedy, I guess, cause it was, uh, yeah. So it's pretty cool.
So I know other shows. Uh, you mentioned Green Auto. So right across the street from Green Auto
was the Blue Light Studio where our buddy Todd Hancock throws his Toddcast Podcast sessions.
Okay. And I was there on Friday night and Steven and the Evens were there.
Steven and the Evens. That's funny. So do you know who that is? So that's the,
the singer from the Odds. So it's sort of the Odds. It's now Steven and the Evens. So it's him in a
three piece. It was fucking awesome. They play a bunch of Odds stuff. It was a, it was actually a,
really a great night. I was there helping him out on Friday night. So, um, he's got a lot of
cool shit happening. Um, so next time I'm going to reach out to him and head one of those shows.
They're cool. He had a fucking sweet metal band there maybe three months ago. I forget what the
fuck they were called, but that's cool. I didn't know he was still doing that. So
yeah. All right. Fuck it. I wish we could get into something like that. There is fucking whatever
episode, but such a, it just brings everybody out together for a lot of night of live music.
And we were fucking big concert music heads. So for sure sounds good, but I do want to touch on
this. Uh, this whole it's Christmas time, all the shit, all the rap stuff. You've got the
Cineclub rap, you've got Spotify rap, you got stuff, but you have this great, uh,
this great, this great Metal Injection, put it out the Spotify rap countered by activists.
I laughed and I laughed at this stuff. Yeah. Pretty, uh, it is pretty funny now how,
how everybody was looking forward to it. And some people probably still do.
Yeah. How, how a lot of people have turned against Spotify now. So,
uh, it's just, it's just pretty funny. Yeah. It's good for a chuckle.
Yeah. It's, I thought that was great. And you're now on Tidal, right?
Yes. I use Tidal exclusively in addition to my, my own library, of course. Uh, I sometimes wonder,
I sometimes wonder why I pay for it. Um, because I don't use it all that often.
Most times I'm here at home or even when I'm on the road, I'll, I'll fire up Plex or,
or I've got another platform I'm using now, um, or trying to use more. Uh, yeah,
I'll just listen to my own stuff, right? Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. Uh, we'll see.
It's the, the convenience of having it at the tip of your finger.
Yeah. And that's it. Like if you're on about for whatever night, Thursday or a Friday,
you didn't get a chance to listen, new music on the Fridays is always a big one for me.
Seeing what's coming out there, ripping through all the shit. Uh, but did you see that Spotify
added flac? Well, they've been talking about it for a while. So it's finally happened then
has it because it took seem to like, it took a long time for them to get their shit together.
But apparently it's not great. Like it's being trashed. You know, it's, it's
quote unquote flac flac, but it's not really flac, which is high for those of us who don't
know what flac is. It's high audio or high bit rate streaming. So you get better,
what is it? Fidelity. Yeah. Well, how do you explain the flac too? Let's, let's Google it.
How do you explain it? Yeah. It's lossless audio basically. Yeah. There's no,
I mean, I think it's got its own compression, but it's still considered lossless,
you know, as opposed to an MP3, which is lossy and it's been heavily compressed. Right. So.
Uh, flac. Yeah, you're right. You did. A flac is a lossless audio compression format. Yeah.
Unlike formats as MP3s, which use lossy compression. Yeah. Uh, but that's okay.
You had also found that great article about Alice in Chains. Peta is asking Alice in Chains to
change their name for awareness for abused elephants. I thought that was kind of a cool story.
Yeah. I'm, I'm wondering if they, uh, are actually going to do it because I think it's,
I think it's a great idea. Like, I don't know, I don't know if Jerry and, and, and the rest of
the guys, I don't know how they feel about, uh, animal cruelty and animal rights and all that
sort of stuff, animal abuse. But I, I mean, I think it's, uh, I, I don't know how it would
tarnish who they are. I mean, because they're probably concerned about that, but I don't know
how, I don't know how it would harm them. It's a, it's an easy fucking fix. You acknowledge it, you
share, reshare a couple of links, you make a cool shirt and you fucking move on through life.
Exactly.
It's, you get, you get some press from Peta. So if you don't know the story, Peta is currently
trying to rescue Betty, the 56 year old disabled elephant who was being forced to perform roughly
300 circus shows a year. To raise awareness, Peta has requested Alice in Chains to change
their name on social media for a month to Betty in Chains.
Yeah.
Like it's really easy. That's, that's, I don't know if they changed their name on the socials
because this is going to fuck up a lot of shit, but get some new logos printed,
get some shirts made and let's fucking go. Uh, it's just like when, uh, black Sabbath did
the black lives matter in the, uh, in the, uh, masters of reality format.
Exactly.
Text like that was fucking cool. I still regret not buying one of those shirts.
Yeah. I was, I was going to bring that up too. It's exactly the same. I mean, here's your,
one of your iconic albums.
Yeah.
And you're using the same style and font and everything for the, for that title,
for black lives matter. And, and it's, how is this? Yeah. It's not really that,
not that much different. So I, I, I, I'm, I'm wondering if they're do it, if they're going
to do it. Um, I can't remember. Does it say in the story that there is a, not a petition,
but say, is there something here that people can kind of hop on board here to try and get
the Alice in Chains to do it? I don't, I don't think so.
I just don't think, uh, because it's Christmas, I think, like, hopefully the guys are cool.
Like, I think they're cool enough. We've had the opportunity to see them and talk to them
a couple of times in their musical careers. I think, I think it's gotta be on the radar
and I will fuck, at least I hope so because they're not fucking living under a rock and
Algeria is on tour promoting that album. And, um, they did that thing for Sabbath or so,
not Sabbath. Oh yeah. For Sabbath and Ozzy a little while back. So they are,
they're, they're fingers on the pulse. I hope it's gotten to them,
but the easiest thing to do was do that. Um, that's just the Alice in Chains, the dog album
record, right? Just put the elephant on there and fucking just go, you know what I mean? Like just
let's have some fun boys. Have some fun. That's it. That's all I ask. Will it get to them? Who
knows? But, uh, I hope it has. And I hope they're working on something. That's yeah. I'm a big,
we're both big. We've traveled like one of the last times I guess you were in the States, Alice
in Chains. Yeah. Well, for certainly for a show anyways, that could have been, I mean,
I mean, a Judas Priest last year, of course, but, uh, but yeah, I don't know. That seems like it
was quite a while ago already when we saw that one. Yeah, fuck. I remember the 20, I don't remember
2018, maybe 2017. Something like that. Yes, for sure. Yeah. 17, 18. Jesus. Yeah. All right. Um,
let's talk tunes. What are you listening to this week? I know I'm going to segue to you here
cause I have fucking 27 windows open. I don't know where my shit is.
Hey, I'm not, uh, I'm not much different from you. So, but I do, I do have something up here.
You know, this, this one, I just, uh, I just discovered this and I listened to the album a
little bit and the whole album is really good. Uh, it's a band called Messa. I know, I know very
little about them. Honestly, this just, uh, this just, just popped up somewhere and it's, um,
I'm trying to get it going here now. Is it playing? Here we go. Uh, it's a, it's a great
tune. It's a heavier, I don't know, is this a, if it's a doom metal type sound to it, uh, a song
called The Dress. It's from their new album. Uh, it came out earlier this year from their new album,
The Spin, uh, on Metal Blade Records, but it's, it's really cool. It's a, yeah, I love this stuff. So,
uh, you can hear it on your side, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. Just wanted to make sure
everything's working okay. Um, yeah, we're rolling. So, so yeah, this is really cool. And, and you know,
I, I did put a kind of a short list of, uh, some, some of my favourite albums. I wouldn't say they're
top albums of, uh, 2025. And I know we try and do this every year. Yeah, we'll get that done next
show for sure. Okay. Yeah. So this, this, this was up there. I really liked this, uh, what I've
listened to the album and stuff. And of course, because I don't know really who they are, I
haven't checked out any of their other stuff. So, um, but yeah, it's, um, it, uh, I mean, let's,
I'll just jump ahead a little bit because it kind of rocks pretty good at times. It's,
you know, this was a cool tune. You know, usually I'm like, I, I open your music like
fucking nine minutes, which is fine, which is fine, but they really, it's really got to grab
you for the nine minutes. And this song definitely grabs you for the nine minutes. It's, it was really
fucking cool. Yeah. It's funny. You've got some horns in there, but it's, but it's a heavy too.
Right. So yeah. Yeah. Pretty cool. Um, and actually, I mean, I, there's lots of music out
there always, but I only have two tunes for you this year. Um, or the show or for this year,
the show. Yes. Uh, this is, um, this is, uh, Rick Emmett and Phil X performing a classic
tune from Triumph. I guess there was some award show, the Canadian songwriters hall of fame.
Yeah. I, I know it's, I know, um, that, uh, Todd Kearns got this, um, shortly after we chatted
with them, whenever the fuck that was. So yeah, they're, they got it, but this performance was
fucking cool. Yeah. It's a, it's a great, it's a great song, but yeah, really cool performance.
Um, it's too bad Rick's guitar wasn't turned up a little bit more for the recording or for the mix,
but, um, obviously he's a great, a great guitarist. It's a cool song. Uh, this is pretty
cool. Now, now Phil X is, he's Canadian, but he, he's the one who replaced Richie Sambora for, um,
Bon Jovi. Is that correct? Oh fuck. I don't know. Cause I know like when the, like when the eighties,
when they're touring nonstop, right? I know this was, this was, uh, well this, he's, he's been
Bon Jovi's guitarist for a number of years now. Like, like Richie Sambora left in like what,
2014, like, like 10 years ago anyway, right? Yeah, 2016. Yeah, you're exactly right. So I think
Phil X, well, yeah, brought them in and he fit in great into, into that, into the band. And, um,
so that's where I know Phil X from, but I think he's done some other stuff too. Like,
wasn't he doing some solo stuff before that or? I can't remember, but. Did he play in Megadeth?
Like Phil plays in Megadeth. Yeah, exactly. Did he, are you serious? Or did he, no, he didn't play
in Megadeth. He didn't. Okay. He did Triumph. His one that I really kind of came on the radar was
for Tommy Lee's project, Methods of Mayhem. Remember that? Okay. Yes. Yes, I do. Yeah.
Because there was some ripping solos in that. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Yeah. It was Phil
X. Yeah. But yeah, you're right. He joined, um, you replaced Richie Sambora in 2016. Yeah.
Not, so not that Bon Jovi's touring anymore because I think his voice is fucked, but.
No, he's back. Jovi's back, baby. Oh, is he? He's got a stint at Madison Square Garden
and, um. Like full band? Full band and everything. Oh, wow. Okay. And there was something else. I
remember a friend of mine's, um, big Jovi fan, big, Bon Jovi fan. He's got a shit ton of dates
coming up. Oh, wow. Okay. Um, of course I can't log into it. It's posted on Instagram.
I don't, people use websites anymore, man. Um, but yeah, he's got a, he's got a stint of dates
coming up. I think, um, I think Triumph has officially, um, gotten together here too.
I think there's an official 2026 reunion tour coming up. Oh. Uh, with, with all three of the
same guys, right? So, um, I don't know what the story is and when and where, where they're going
to play and, oh, let's see. We have some dates here real quick. Um, yes, starting in April,
they're starting here in Canada. It's their 50th anniversary tour. Awesome. So I see, I do not see
a Vancouver date, which is kind of odd because they're playing all across Canada, starting in
Ontario. They go out to the Atlantic, then all the way back to Edmonton and Calgary.
No Vancouver. They're down to the States after that. That's kind of, kind of odd.
Anyways, uh, I, I was a big Triumph fan way back in the late seventies. In fact, I think
Triumph was one of my, if not the very first show that I saw. Oh, fuck. This would have been
like 1979 or yeah. See, that's how fucking old I am. Um, I saw them, I saw them a few times way back
then. And I think that that was probably, Triumph was probably my first show ever. Oh shit. So yeah,
so yeah, big fan. Wow. Fuck. My first show ever was Kiss. Yeah. Well, that's a, uh, well, I think
I've, I think you've told that before and I think I've said this before. I wanted to see Kiss. This
would have been 1976, 77, uh, maybe 78. Um, I can't remember. They were touring with Cheap Trick.
Cheap Trick was opening for Kiss. I wanted to go so bad and, uh, my parents wouldn't let me.
Sons of bitches. Yeah. Cause well, cause it's, it's in Cal, it's in Calgary, right? I'm living in
Canmore. Uh, who's going to drive me? How am I going to get there? Uh, they, they aren't going
to go to the show with me obviously. And, uh, there's nobody else to go with. So, and I was
too young. So at least in their minds, I was too young. We're too young for this stuff. We're too
young. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, cause that would have been cool. Kiss and Cheap Trick. Definitely check
out the video and Steven, uh, post that on our webpage at theoldman.ca. Holy shit. I remember.
theoldman.ca. That's right. Um. Tough getting used to that I think, eh? Oh, it's, it's not bad.
I remember throwing some stuff around, but that actually just sticks. It feels, it feels good off
the tongue. Yeah, it does. Um, for those of us who care about what John Bon Jovi were doing,
they're doing a bunch of dates at Madison Square Garden from July 7th to the 26th.
Then they go to the UK for four dates and that's it. They're doing, uh, two in Dublin and two at
Wembley Stadium in London. Oh, cool. Yeah. Those are, those will be some big shows.
If you care about Bon Jovi, of course. Yes. Did you ever see him?
I saw Bon Jovi. It would have been the mid nineties and, uh, it was probably one of the worst shows
I've seen in my life. Oh, fuck. Yeah. It was, I, I, I, I, I, I can't forget that. It was,
I did not enjoy myself and I think it was because of, did they sound like shit? Yeah, fuck. Yeah.
Like, I don't know. You know, he, he's had problems with his voice for many years.
I don't know if he had problems way back then. So the nineties, like the mid nineties. So that's
would have been, how long ago is that? That's 30 years ago, right? Yeah. Um, you know, I don't know
if he had experienced trouble back then or not, but for whatever reason, uh, it just sounded like
shit. And I think I went because some of the guys I was working with at the time, they had had some
tickets or I don't know. I decided to go anyways and, uh, kind of wondering why I did. So that's
the only time I've seen Bon Jovi. I saw him, uh, fuck it would have been 2008 at Roger's Arena.
They released a new album or some shit. Yeah. And they're like, we're going to do something
I've never done before. They played the album from front to back. Oh yeah. I was like, what the fuck
is this? And, uh, and then after they did the encore, then they did all the hits. Yeah. You
know, they did, uh, you know, You Give Love a Bad Name, Runaway, Bad Medicine, Dead or Alive,
Have a Nice Day, Living on a Prayer, all that stuff. They just went bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
It just kind of punches you in the face. They were like seven fucking power things. And then,
but I remember they covered a Bruce Springsteen song somewhere in there.
Oh yeah. Um, and I thought that was fucking cool, but anyways, uh, enough Jovi talk. Uh,
what am I spending this week? I am rocking some local stuff. Band called In Our Name. Um,
I don't know if you remember the local band Quartered. Um, but this is the lead singer
from Quartered. His name's Gregory. Maybe I'll send you the link. He is actually unfortunately
facing cancer, uh, spinal cancer. So no one really knew what was going on, but he's been silently
dealing with this, uh, for a little while. So there was a GoFundMe set up and everyone's
like, what are you doing? No one's heard from him in a couple of years and he's been, um,
suddenly fighting this battle. So obviously recording some new music during that time when
he was feeling better, but yeah, he was, uh, fighting spinal cancer. But, uh, then he's like,
what are you doing for music? And he goes, well, this is the new stuff. And here's the taste of
the new music. Um, did you get a chance to listen to these tunes? Did you enjoy this up your alley?
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't mind them. I didn't know. I've never heard this of them before,
so I didn't even know that they were local or anything like that. So yeah, sounds okay.
Cool stuff. Yeah. Um, so yeah, uh, In Our Name, Everlasting Glaze or Everlasting Gaze is the song.
Yeah. Cool stuff. Cool stuff. Yeah, right on. Uh, found some blues music. I do love me some blues.
Uh, this is Jonathan Boogie Long, uh, album came out, uh, November 14th, uh, fucking great stuff.
Sounds like whatever Gary Clark Jr. Government Mule, that kind of stuff, but fuck love this shit.
Fucking guys is the big, he kind of looks like a younger Chris Stapleton. Okay. But, uh, it looks
like he's playing all the instruments doing this thing, but cool little blues song. What'd you think
of this? Yeah, I don't mind. Uh, Hey, I love the blues too. I mean, that's where it all came from,
or at least the music we listened to the most of it. It was heavily influenced by,
you know, a lot of the old blues and, uh, I, I love the name Jonathan Boogie Long. Yeah. Yeah.
So that's no, that's a cool, cool tune. Yeah. Add this on the playlist. The album, I have the
album acquired. I haven't actually listened to it yet. Okay. Right on. I'll check it out.
Should be good. And, uh, Canadian boys Finger Eleven released a new album. I think about them almost
a month ago now. This is, is one of the tracks off it. I think it's like track 10, but yeah,
given this album, you know, we're trying to come in. I was actually, you know, I had the list in
the back of my mind, what albums made the best albums of the year. And this is going to be on
my list for sure. New Finger Eleven, they released that song a little while back with the lead singer
from Filter, uh, with John and Patrick, Patrick, Jonathan, what the fuck's Patrick? Um,
Flint, Patrick, Patrick Flint. No, something Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, Robert's
his last name is Patrick. Um, why can't I remember? Yeah. Oh,
fuck Patrick, Patrick, Richard, Patrick, Patrick. There you go. Um, they're doing so, uh,
they just came through town with, um, Tea Party and Headstones. Yeah. That's what I
thought they were touring or had been here recently or were going to be here coming up
or something. Yeah. Okay. And then they just announced a tour with, uh, a world tour with,
uh, Three Days Grace. Okay. Cool. Uh, so that'll be good for these boys, uh, get a little more
recognition, but, uh, yeah, great. Good stuff from, uh, local Canadian boys. And they did a bunch of
CFOX stuff with us in the past. Did you, uh, are you a fan and did you like the song?
I didn't mind the song. I, I, I, I'm not, I've never listened to them much, to be honest with
you. So, and, and not for any reason, it's not like I don't like them or anything. I just don't know,
but I really gave him a, gave him a chance. So, but yeah, it was a decent, it's a decent track.
So yeah, uh, quintessential rock is The Greyest of Blue Skies by Finger Eleven. Fuck it. I was,
I listened to that album 10 billion times. Like that's, that's quintessential music for me growing
up. Cool. Something wrong. So that's that. Uh, you, uh, you watch anything interesting this week?
Yeah. I want to point out to have been watching, trying to watch quite a bit. I want to point out
a couple of things. As you know, you know, we've got the new TV. Uh, I don't think, you know,
that I ended up purchasing some surrounds for my soundbar. Did I, I don't think I talked about,
did I talk about it last time? Uh, but I didn't know you got them. So how does that sound?
That's right. It was on the, on the list because we were talking about it for Black Friday. So
that was a Black Friday purchase. Yes. Um, yeah, yeah, it adds, it sounds, it sounds amazing.
And, and some of the movies that I watched, um, so there's been some TV and stuff like that,
but a couple of movies, so not only for audio, but all, but just the overall, um, HDR experience
with, with Dolby, uh, Atmos, uh, sound, some of the stuff that I've been watching
includes, uh, Queen walks, Queen Rocks, Montreal or Queen Rock Montreal.
So that, that was a performance by Queen 1981. I believe they're kind of at their highlight of
their career. Um, they played Montreal. This footage has been out there for a long time in
various formats, but they, um, I think they did a 4k restoration with Dolby Vision that,
that was released last year. Um, I would have to say, and, and obviously I've watched a lot of
concert videos, a concert footage, there's lots of movies out there, still some I want to see.
I would have to say so far this performance in this format is one of the best shows I've ever
watched. Oh, the visual and audio is just so amazing watching it in HDR with incredible sound.
It's a great performance as it is, but to watch it in 4k HDR with Dolby Vision is just, uh,
just, oh, it's just amazing. Yeah. Yeah. It's really cool. So that I wanted to point out The
Last Waltz. I also watched recently, of course, it's about, uh, 1977 Martin Scorsese film about,
I guess I think it was their last show by The Band, right? When they, uh, so they do sit around
and talk about different things. Um, but the show itself is great because they bring in all these
guests and stuff during the performance. And it would have been really cool to see that show
actually way back, way back in 19, whenever, whenever it was recorded. Um, but that looks good
and it sounds great again, HDR and Dolby Atmos, two, two great, a hundred percent two great concert
films. Um, two regular movies. So again, these are not new. One is called Suspiria. It's an old
Italian horror film from 1977. It recently had a 4k restoration, um, upgrade. The colours in that
show. Just, just amazing. Just the, the reds and the blues and the yellows and greens. If, uh, it's
a, it's a, it's a classic horror flick. Um, so, so check that out if you haven't seen it, whether
it's in 4k or not, uh, it's a great movie, but yeah, to see it, uh, to see the restoration was,
was awesome. And this movie is, it has to be seen in the 4k restoration. This was just released,
uh, like a month ago or something like that, a couple of months ago, The Descent. Did you ever
see the movie The Descent? Is that the one with the, that they go down the cave and yeah. Yeah.
So it's, it's, you know, sure, if you've got a better quality or if you're watching it from
Blu-ray or something like that, it, it probably looks a lot much better. It looks decent,
but because it's in a cave, like it's, like it's dark, like the blacks. So the whole, yeah. So
that's the thing. This 4k restoration just brings everything to life. The blacks are very black.
There's no banding or anything like that, but the, but the colour and whatever lighting there is,
it just pops from the black. It just, there are things that I saw watching the 4k restoration
that I never saw before because it's so black, because it's, because it's so black. And, uh,
that is, that is a, it's a classic horror film, um, from 2005. And you have to watch it. If you're a
fan of horror, if you like that movie, you have to watch it. You have to watch the 4k restoration.
Yeah. It's just, it's amazing. Yeah. So, um, a bunch of other things. I watched Warfare.
I think you said you saw Warfare in the theatre. Yeah, it was cool. It's a pretty good film. It's
pretty, it's pretty brutal. It's a pretty brutal film. And it's, I could never imagine doing that
going through that. There's just no way. You know, I do kick ass at Call of Duty,
but I don't think I could ever be a fucking soldier. Yeah. That stuff is,
it's pretty, pretty brutal for sure. Um, a bunch of TV shows, some of them I've mentioned before.
I will mention Slow Horses, Gary Oldman. Uh, I think season five maybe just finished. Is that
right? Or it's coming up. Anyways, we've, we're on season two now. It's a cool British,
um, a British, uh, spy film. Yeah. I guess you could, could call it a spy, not film,
but TV series. Uh, it's pretty cool. And Stranger Things. Did you watch Stranger Things?
I am up to date on Stranger Things. Okay. We can talk about it. Oh, man. I thought it was
the twist at the end of episode four. Yeah. It was fucking cool. Yeah. Uh, you know, it really,
I mean, fuck, I don't know if we talk about it or we wait till. Oh, no, no, it's, it's, no,
he's waiting. Let's go. Spoilers ahead, spoilers ahead. So Will looks like he has the power of
Vecna. Yeah. Um, so is he like, was he, I don't know, is like what, what direction do you go? Do
you play Will off as like a mutant and was able to absorb powers or is he just, was he just so
tapped into Vecna, re-altered his DNA? Like how are they going to put that in the storyline?
Was it kind of a one and done thing? Is he 11 sister or brother story? Like what's, what's the
next, what's the theory? What's your theory on it? Yeah. I don't know that I've got a theory. It is,
it is, I didn't expect that. Yeah. I really didn't. And you know what? I'll be honest with you.
I mean, it was entertaining. It was good. Um, I enjoyed it overall, kind of dragged a little bit
like second episode, third episode. I'm thinking, well, I'm really glad this series is finishing up
because yeah, I'm getting tired of it. Right. And then, and then episode four, and it was like,
holy fuck. Punches you in the teeth. Yeah. There, but you know, like are they, they're really kind
of wrapping shit up too. Like you can see they're kind of ending storylines and each like episodes,
like an hour, these new episodes are like an hour and 15, the final episodes, like two hours
and seven minutes or something like that released on New Year's Eve. So like they are doing a bunch
of work for it. Yeah. But, um, it's, you know, like when you're watching Stranger Things and
Will's getting the visions and he's seeing through people's eyes and stuff. I was watching it, my
dad, I'm like, well, he's being a, he's a conductor. Like he's somehow being able to tap in.
So maybe he's being able to tap into Vecna's powers or something like that. But like,
what's the story behind that? Are they going to explain that? Are they going to be right? Some
of the stuff like, it's just, who knows what the fuck's going to happen. But yeah, big, uh,
big, big fan of that. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, they released four episodes. I forget what dates
and stuff like that all in the same day. So the next there's, there's four more. I think three
of them are Christmas Day. Yep. And then the finale is New Year's Eve, right? So, uh, so yeah,
that's what we'll be watching over the holidays. I think I'll probably try to get some of that
stuff done. Um, I know you're big. Sorry. And by the way, 4k with Dolby Atmos is awesome. That show
is great. Oh fuck. Netflix is ripped. Like it was almost like it was made and the, um, uh,
the new Netflix logo they use to do the upside down stuff. Crank that, just turn all the way
up when you're watching it. I noticed that. Through all your speakers. It's fucking cool.
Yeah, right away. That was amazing. Um, I did rewatch some of the old stuff cause we started
talking about sound when you started upgrading your sound. So I went through and kind of watched
some of the stuff, the old man, uh, rewatch the Matrix. Yes, I did that. Not with the,
I watched it before I connected the surrounds. So I'll maybe need to watch it again with the
surrounds. Cause, um, I just had the soundbar at that time. So just watch the bullet scene.
So when they are, when they break into save Morpheus, rewatch that. Um, we watch both Blade
Runners. So they were with Harrison Ford and then the 2049, the opening scene in 2049 fucking just
shakes your building. It's, it's awesome. It looks great. And then, um, everyone always talks about
Gravity. Um, I rewatched Gravity, the cool kind of, uh, like the space effects and stuff,
the ship blowing up is cool, but also the new Star Trek movies, the ones with Chris Pine
and Zachary Quinto, um, watched the very first one cause of all the ship exploding, especially
when that ship, when, uh, Chris Hemsworth is like Kirk's dad, when he bloat, like rams the ship,
yeah, that rips and the 4k rip of that looks fucking cool. So.
Okay, cool. Because that one, that one is not like I've been searching for stuff like,
and of course it's just people's opinions, but you know, what are, what are the best 4k, uh, HDR
or Dolby, Dolby Vision movies with, uh, with Atmos to watch. And yeah, I know of some of those,
you mentioned like the Blade Runner stuff and Matrix and, and whatever, of course,
Mad Max. I rewatched that and just that's awesome. Um, but yeah, Star Trek was not on that,
any of those lists actually. So that's good to, and I'm a big Star Trek fan, especially of
the old Kirk stuff, whether it's the way back, well, you know, the sixties in the series or the,
or those movies with Chris Pine. Yeah. Good stuff.
And you're also a Star Wars fan. So The Force Awakens actually kicks ass.
Yeah. Okay.
Uh, because the Star Wars and that the bright colours and JJ Abrams is doing this thing and
yeah, so definitely rewatch that one. And I don't know if you're a Disney guy at all,
but any of the Pixar stuff kicks ass. Um, Toy Story 3, especially, um, the, there's a full
scene of like the drop claw and the lava pit and all this shit. Fucking awesome. So yeah,
definitely check that stuff out. Right on. Um, I also know you're a big, big, big fan. Taylor
Swift released her, uh, her Era's tour document all shot in Vancouver. So it was a, okay.
That final show is, uh, shot at BC Place. So, uh, you know, uh, watch the song, uh, and
but it's all mixed. It's all mixed in Atmos. So like you, you hear it all the colours pop
because it's just, she's, she's, she's, she could afford it. She's using the best gear,
recording gear and stuff available. So skip forward, watch the song and call it a day.
Yeah, you're good. Yeah. But it's just cool to see the, um, like the effects shot in her
hometown. Fuck the kind of cool. Yeah. Uh, the queen played here almost a year ago. So,
um, that was it. That was it. Okay. Um, well, I guess this is our last show before Chris,
well until after Christmas, the new year, uh, you got any plans? Are you ripping up to see mom or?
No, no, no plans. We're sticking around at home. I'll have almost a couple of weeks off,
but we don't have any plans. We talked about doing something, you know, and we, you know, it's, uh,
even if it's going to Whistler for a couple of days, going to Tofino for a couple of days,
everything's so expensive. Yeah. Uh, I looked at flights to go back home to visit my mom over
Christmas for the two of us, like 1300 bucks. It's a fucking one-way flights and, uh, to cost
that much money for a return flight for the two of us, just not worth it, man. So we're just,
we're just staying home. I recommend Squamish. Squamish. Yeah. Yep. Rip up the Squamish. They
got a cool couple of restaurants in there. So, um. Yeah. So that's the thing. We, we'll, we'll,
we'll take some drives and stuff like that, right? So that might be, I haven't been to Squamish in
a long time. You know, it's probably been, I can't say when it's been a long time. It's probably,
it could be like close to 20 years since I've been to Squamish. Oh fuck. Yeah. Go to Squamish
to use their good, cool restaurants. Yeah. I know you're no longer on the sauce, but there's, uh,
a couple of good breweries up there, back countries up there. Yeah. Um, they got this
full new adventure trail that kind of opened. You can do rain or shine. Yeah. Uh, you can rip
up and see the falls, Shannon Falls up there. Um, yeah, it's a great day trip. The Salmon Hotel
up there is rad. They got the Crash Hotel, which is super cool. Uh, stay up there for a night,
grab a pastry and a coffee and rip back. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a, that's a good trip,
but we'd be doing that. The girl and I liked that trip a lot. So, uh, we spend a day up there and
have some fun and rip back the next day. It's, it feels like you're ripping far enough away
and you're just surrounded by mountains and shit. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's, you know,
it's an hour away from here. So it's, it's not too bad. Yeah, definitely. Uh, so the,
that is my recommendation to you. That could be, that might be the top of the list. It sounds like
it's a good idea. Cause yeah, typically we, we like go south. We go to, uh, not to Tsawwassen,
but we go to Steveston didn't, you know, often we've been out, uh, east all, you know, all the way to
Harrison and stuff like that. But yeah, I think we should go the other way.
See what happened. And it's only an hour from, it's even closer to you cause you're already
halfway there. Well, that's, that's what I mean. It's probably closer to Squamish than it is to go
out to Harrison, right? A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. So rip through it. Uh, well, I'm going to
say Merry Christmas to you cause that's what we do. I don't say Happy Holidays. Happy Festivus.
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